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my country is in turmoil

Seriously considering packing my bags and leaving for good forever--

this country has such a lack of morals and is consumed with greed.

IF you are on the board of a company (aig for example) and the government bails you out by loaning you 85 billion in capital, then go off to a freaking resort (st. regis) for a week of pampering at TAXPAYER expense 440k

what the f*ck is this? sick of the bullshit-

I see more morals in south america, family values, respect and a hard work ethic, here in america is all about screwing the other guy.

By cali_brahh on Oct 10, 2008, 09:26 in Off Topic. AddThis Social Bookmark Button


ujay says on Oct 10, 2008, 09:29:

here in america is all about screwing the other guy.

are there a lot of gays there then.I wont go there again if they make it compulsory

http://www.jukelightning.com

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Paisa/Calena/Luver says on Oct 10, 2008, 09:33:

EVERYBODY and EVERYPERSON in Colombia is ALWAYS looking for a way to put their hand in your pocket! Somehow someway! Anybody who has been there knows that very well.

I love Laura Acuna & Jessica Cediel! lol

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tomtom33 says on Oct 10, 2008, 09:37:

"I see more morals in south america, family values, respect and a hard work ethic, here in america is all about screwing the other guy."

You are going to be disappointed wherever you go. Humans are human all over.

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ujay says on Oct 10, 2008, 10:04:

I had my camera stolen in St pauls sq Vatican city ,and there was only about 200 priests around me.guess it goes on every where.

http://www.jukelightning.com

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tasco66 says on Oct 10, 2008, 10:07:

Colombia is fast becoming the best place to live on the planet

Not being bound to swear to the dogmas of any master

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Robert Jorge says on Oct 10, 2008, 10:08:

So, the pampering at the resort was a bad thing? I figured they were wining and dining potential customers - ie: private insurance salesmen to try and get these salesmen to sell their product. Hence, making a the company money. They need to make some money if they are to pay back their loans. Should they just close up shop, fire thousands of people, and thus screw over their millions of clients?

He who farts in church, sits in his own pew.

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pedro says on Oct 10, 2008, 10:10:

Sure you've got those facts right?

Which AIG board members... names?

que nota!

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ujay says on Oct 10, 2008, 10:13:

Sure you've got those facts right?

yes i was standing there looking up at that pope ,and the camara went missing.

http://www.jukelightning.com

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sloopskipper says on Oct 10, 2008, 10:47:

Well, if you were looking at him, at least you know the Pope didn't cop it.

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ujay says on Oct 10, 2008, 11:04:

I think he may have been in on it ,he detracts your attention and his socialites ripped you off.

http://www.jukelightning.com

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dwmte7 says on Oct 10, 2008, 11:12:

was jim davenport standing around there in st. peter's square when all this happened? just curious.

dwmte

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ujay says on Oct 10, 2008, 11:27:

could be was he wearing a white dog collar,

http://www.jukelightning.com

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sloopskipper says on Oct 10, 2008, 17:10:

ujay says on Oct 10, 2008, 11:04 (today): flag

"I think he may have been in on it, he detracts your attention and his socialites ripped you off."

THAT's bad!

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ujay says on Oct 10, 2008, 17:14:

sloop ,
yes it was ,i lost my camara.

http://www.jukelightning.com

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sloopskipper says on Oct 10, 2008, 17:35:

zzzzzz (newbie) says on Oct 10, 2008, 17:29 (today): flag

"Leave. Maybe we don't want you here either."

Your option also, don't let the door hit you on the ass on your way out, newbie!

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sloopskipper says on Oct 10, 2008, 17:37:

ujay says on Oct 10, 2008, 17:14 (today): flag

"sloop ,
yes it was ,i lost my camara."

I was sorta joking, but that is not funny, and a bummer.

Sorry to hear that.

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ujay says on Oct 10, 2008, 18:47:

sloop ,and you know not like the old days 12 on a roll ,the chip had 100s on,that i had taken while going around ,you cant go back take them again.i bought new cam ,but still lost the photos.now i carry cards and load them on the them ,keeping just the photos of where i am on ,then i can only lose the day at most .

http://www.jukelightning.com

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Mongo says on Oct 10, 2008, 19:05:

I got my camera stolen the other day too. I stopped at the Mexican tienda to buy some tarjetas to call my novia. Someone grabbed my digital camera out of my car in about 30 seconds! It wasn't the pope, but I'll bet they were Catholic...



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Beware of dog.

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sloopskipper says on Oct 11, 2008, 16:34:

ujay says on Oct 10, 2008, 18:47: flag

"sloop ,and you know not like the old days 12 on a roll ,the chip had 100s on,that i had taken while going around ,you cant go back take them again.i bought new cam ,but still lost the photos.now i carry cards and load them on the them ,keeping just the photos of where i am on ,then i can only lose the day at most ."

I understand. Although I have not yet had a camera stolen, I remember many years ago in Germany (Aachen) I discovered that the new film I had inserted into my new AE-1 was not advancing and a whole day's shots were non-existent, although I still had the camera.

But on a trip to Perú a few years ago, I regularly visited a foto shop and had my memory stick copied to a CD-ROM as insurance

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cali_brahh says on Oct 15, 2008, 20:11:

Less than a week after the federal government offered an $85 billion bailout to insurance giant AIG, the company held a week-long retreat for its executives at the luxury St. Regis Resort in Monarch Beach, Calif., running up a tab of $440,000, Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) said today at the the opening of a House committee hearing about the near-failure of the insurance giant.

Showing a photograph of the resort, Waxman said the executives spent $200,000 for rooms, $150,000 for meals and $23,000 for the spa.

"Less than a week after the taxpayers rescued AIG, company executives could be found wining and dining at one of the most exclusive resorts in the nation," Waxman said. "We will ask whether any of this makes sense. "

The committee will ask the company's executives about their multimillion-dollar pay packages -- some of which they continue to receive -- as well as who bears responsibility for the company's high-risk investment portfolio, which led to its near collapse just weeks ago.

"They were getting their manicures, their pedicures, massages, their facials while the American people were paying their bills," thundered Rep. Elijah E. Cummings (D-Md.), of the executive retreat at the Monarch Resort.

The House committee, which took on executive compensation at bankrupt Wall Street firm Lehman Brothers yesterday, has received "tens of thousands" of pages of documents from AIG, Waxman said.

Those documents show that as the company's risky investments began to implode, the company altered its generous executive pay plan to pay out regardless of such losses.
AIG lost over $5 billion in the last quarter of 2007 due its risky financial products division, Waxman said. Yet in March 2008, when the company's compensation committee met to award bonuses, Chief Executive Martin Sullivan urged the committee to ignore those losses, which should have slashed bonuses.

But the board agreed to ignore the losses from the financial products division and gave Sullivan a cash bonus of over $5 million. The board also approved a new compensation contract for Sullivan that gave him a golden parachute of $15 million, Waxman said.

Joseph Cassano, the executive in charge of the company's troubled financial products division, received more than $280 million over the last eight years, Waxman said. Even after he was terminated in February as his investments turned sour, the company allowed him to keep up to $34 million in unvested bonuses and put him on a $1 million-a-month retainer. He continues to receive $1 million a month, Waxman said.

Waxman also looked skeptically at the executives' defense that the troubles in the business had to do with larger economic forces and not their own bad decisions.
When a former AIG auditor, Joseph St. Denis, expressed concerns, Cassano told him "I have deliberately excluded you from the valuation ... because I was concerned that you would pollute the process," according to Waxman.

St. Denis resigned in protest.

PricewaterhouseCoopers, AIG's auditor, told the company in March 2008 that the "root cause" of AIG's problems was that people assessing risk did not have enough access to the financial products division, where the risky investments originated.
Waxman further suggested that Sullivan had deliberately misled investors.

On Dec. 5, 2007, Sullivan expressed confidence to investors. But a week before, PricewaterhouseCoopers warned Sullivan that the company "could have a material weakness relating to these area," committee members said

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tasco66 says on Oct 16, 2008, 09:05:

AIG Executives Rack Up a Reported $86,000 Tab During Hunting Trip
Wednesday, October 15, 2008

CHARLOTTE, N.C. — First there was the $440,000 American Insurance Group Inc. spent entertaining executives days after receiving an $85 billion lifeline from the Federal Reserve, now it's $86,000 for a hunting trip in England as the faltering company reaped another $37.8 billion in taxpayer funded loans.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,438681,00.html

Not being bound to swear to the dogmas of any master

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