Age gaps in relationships between women and men from Col. and abroad

WidowerfromCanada says on Feb 2, 2005, 12:27:

I look forward to all your responses.

Jeff

Love is like a butterfly , if you chase it you will not catch it but you can hope the butterfly of love lands on your shoulder.

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greenday says on Feb 2, 2005, 12:38:

Jeff damn Jeff, talk about opening a can of worms. I just hope I can remember all of my good retorts, especially those directed at Desi. but I might have to sit this one out since I'll be in Colombia for the next 10 days with one of my girlfriends (caleña)...oh, by the way, she's 20 years younger than me, and is just wild about me. Hey, if anyone is in Cartagena we might run into you, and she can tell you how much she loves me...jajajaja
Good luck with this thread Jeff!!

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calipro says on Feb 2, 2005, 13:04:

I don't think you are going to get a definative anwser. I married a caleña that was fifteen years younger than me and her parents thought the world of me and still do.

Last time I was in Cali I was going out with a 20 year old and I'm 42. I asked if I could meet her family and she said sure. Everybody in the family was very nice to me including the mother that I believe was my age exactly.

Having said this. Do you really believe that if the family was gong to have a problem with my age the young lady would invite me over to meet her family. I probably have dated many young women whose family would not approve. But, she never gave me the opportunity to meet them.

My own mother wasn't very kind to my first colombian wife and I guarantee you she won't have that opportunity with the next one.

The bottom line is some people will feel that you are taking advantage by marrying a girl fifteen years or more your junior and some will feel that the young colombiana is using you to get ahead in life.

But, only you will know how big the wet spot is in your bed after the two of you have sex;-) So sharpen your defense skills here with the argument that will most likely follow.

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greenday says on Feb 2, 2005, 13:10:

calipro where you been?? I think you missed the first round on this one. It was a good thread, but the moderator somehow accidently deleted it. I'm sure Desi will be showing up with her great knowledge of Colombian woman and their expectations for a mate before long, of course her views are always based on first hand knowledge, and the hand full of friends she has who married men within a few years of their own age. And I was thinking for a minute she was a liberal, boy she had me fooled!!

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2retirensa says on Feb 2, 2005, 13:13:

10 year difference There is 10 years difference between me and my fiance. At first his family thought I was to young for him. I simply said "thank goodness! I was afraid you would think I was to old for him." They all laughed and that ended that! They all love the idea we are getting married and have welcomed me into the family with no problem.
Maureen

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lpdiver says on Feb 2, 2005, 15:00:

In the words of Mr Bob Seeger "I used her, she used me, neither one cared, we were getting our share"

Do what you want and enjoy the ride.

Tony

"cook some rice!"

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dwmte says on Feb 2, 2005, 15:31:

i wasn't in colombia looking for women... when i met the woman who would become my wife. she was simply a lady i saw daily hosting a painting exhibit at the hotel intercontinental in medellin. when i returned late each afternoon from my work, i would go to the lounge and have a drink or two. i saw her there in the exhibit and it wasn't long before i struck up a conversation...and some days after that offered to buy her a drink as it was the end of her work day.

i'll not labor this thread with details, but there's 16 years difference between us. we were married in 1990. now i wasn't looking for a lady, but i ended up with one.

we early on had a son...he died in birth in clinica prado and i buried on the mountain above las palmas.

our second child, laura juliana was born in envigado and is now 12 years old.

we ended up in hard issue times, separated, divorced and ultimately, about 3 years later, got back together and remarried and live now in florida.

i have no clue about anyone else. this could have happened between a swede and a polynesian....it's just my wife and i.

frankly i don't think age in our case means anything. we work together as a couple and by dedication and work, we are together and lovingly help one another while we raise our lovely daughter.

dwm

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utopiacowboy says on Feb 2, 2005, 15:40:

I'm 85 and my wife is 19. She calls me Abuelito and I call her Jailbait.

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dwmte says on Feb 2, 2005, 15:48:

'...bad boy, bad boy, what cha gonna do.... what cha gonna do when they come for you?

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WidowerfromCanada says on Feb 2, 2005, 15:49:

utopiacowboy , roflmao ; Greenday That was a good one utopiacowboy !!

Greenday a PM for you in your inbox.

Jeff

Love is like a butterfly , if you chase it you will not catch it but you can hope the butterfly of love lands on your shoulder.

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calipro says on Feb 2, 2005, 16:39:

Utopia "I'm 85 and my wife is 19. She calls me Abuelito and I call her Jailbait."

I guess you started calling her Jailbait when the two of you first met. You know when you were 82 and she was 16 because 19 is perfectly legal even here in the states. hehehe !!

Probably the name just stuck.

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utopiacowboy says on Feb 2, 2005, 16:49:

Well, when you're as old as I am you tend to forget these things. You may be right. Hmmmm, I hope she's 19.

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oldbongo says on Feb 2, 2005, 19:02:

the oldgringo will remind you all...again... "you're only as old as the womasn you feel"

la commandante and the old gringo have a 31 year
birthdate difference,.. but with her maturity,
and the oldgrigos' immaturity, things are just fine.
her family is happy, his family is happy,
where's the beef?

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utopiacowboy says on Feb 3, 2005, 09:06:

So are you like an old car whose odometer has rolled over, OG? Now you're low mileage again?

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dwmte says on Feb 3, 2005, 12:27:

remember, cowboy... it ain't the age, it's the milage...

dw

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goosekirk says on Feb 3, 2005, 12:48:

My experience... I know a 27-year-old Colombian woman who, for a few years, had a special friend in the US who was 67. He was quite wealthy. They'd see each other for a week every 4-6 months, he'd take her shopping and give her money for school... I think they were both quite happy with the relationship. His wife had died a year before he met the girl, and he was only interested in having some fun before he passed on himself. And she was happy to have someone buy her things and send her money. He even met her mother at one point, although I have no idea what she thought. I do know the girl tried very hard to keep the nature of the relationship a secret from everyone, only acknowledging him as one of many casual "amigos."

Make of it what you will.

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calipro says on Feb 3, 2005, 13:32:

goosekirk Sounds like you knew the young women pretty well.

How did the two of you meet and how did you get her to divulge her true relationship with the 67 year old?

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goosekirk says on Feb 3, 2005, 13:45:

She didn't, he did Oh, yes, I knew her quite intimately. It's a very long and very, very good story. She never would fess up to it, but... people like to talk to me, and this man was no exception. Sorry, you'll just have to wait for the book for all the details. Or I could be bribed to tell the tale for a bottle of whiskey and a box of Nat Sherman's MCDs (impossible to find in Bogota!).

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YEP says on Feb 3, 2005, 14:43:

he he .... tempting ....
What brand of whisky .... and wth is "Nat Sherman's MCD's".

I'll hopefully set foot on Col. ground pretty soon ;-)



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goosekirk says on Feb 3, 2005, 14:53:

Cool! Actually, it doesn't need to be a full bottle of whiskey. Just buy us a few rounds at some dive. But the smokes are key - Nat Sherman is an American cigarette company. They're a little high-end and come in rectangular boxes, usually only found in smoke shops or boutiques. MCD is one brand they make, comes in a black box with gold lettering. Not that I'm a pretentious bastard, it's just a story like this deserves a quality smoke. Note: cigars will also suffice... I'm flexible!

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YEP says on Feb 3, 2005, 14:57:

Well ... I suppose something like that could be picked up when in transit in Miami.

Which reminds me ... what is the shopping options when you're in transit and have the time to shop a little.

Ehm ... how much booze/cigarettes is one allowed to bring into Colombia.

Info on other vital gift-subjects would be nice to know.

TIA

PS this kind of reminds me that a market similar to K-Mart have a running offer on some nice "whisky" numbered and everything "Glenfiddich Vintage Reserve 1972" 75 cl at 49,1% at around US $ 375-400 ;-)

But I imagine less would do


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Lionheart says on Feb 3, 2005, 15:09:

I recommend ... little troll dolls ... pics in my image gallery here.

They are living memories for all from online chatting and being in PBH.

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WidowerfromCanada says on Feb 3, 2005, 16:56:

Keep em coming folks , Desi where are you ? Thanks everyone for their input and keep em coming. Desi you said you were going to post your views !

So we are all pitching in for the whisky & cigs , eh !!

Jeff

Love is like a butterfly , if you chase it you will not catch it but you can hope the butterfly of love lands on your shoulder.

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YEP says on Feb 3, 2005, 17:06:

he he .... it's a real bargain .....
Normally that whisky would cost the double of above amount ;-)


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goosekirk says on Feb 3, 2005, 17:50:

Yep Hey, if you're a whisky man, there's a nice little whisky bar in Bogota now, in the 82 next to the Irish Pub.

As far as shopping options at the Miami airport, things may have changed in the year since I've been there... but all I remember is that it was basically a cesspool and I couldn't wait to get out of there. I wouldn't count on picking up anything in that airport, except for maybe the cheesiest of overpriced airport souvenirs.

Bringing booze and smokes into the country for your own use (or for gifts, wink wink) shouldn't be an issue. I wouldn't worry about it, unless you're planning on bringing a whole suitcase packed full of cigarettes or something. As far as I can tell, Colombian customs doesn't seem to be very concerned with people bringing things INTO the country.

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YEP says on Feb 3, 2005, 18:02:

Yes ... but I've asked before actually ... and nobody seems to
know actually ... but of course ... can be there's no rules for that if just for private use/small gifts ;-)


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Tinto (Moderator) says on Feb 3, 2005, 18:20:

DIAN Form 530, $1500 USD 530 DECLARACIÓN DE EQUIPAJE Y T�?TULOS REPRESENTATIVOS DE DINERO - VIAJEROS AÑO 2005



www.dian.gov.co/dian/15servicios.nsf/formulariosguias?openview



Select year 2005 and they have a very high quality PDF of the form you will receive on the airplane. The website was recently redone, too. Like I said, Colombia is a mix of 1st and 3rd world -- fascinating and maddening.

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YEP says on Feb 3, 2005, 18:41:

Quite smart ..... no hapla that formula ..... so will be random
filling out that form for sure ;-)


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2retirensa says on Feb 3, 2005, 18:58:

Forms are in English OR Spanish. Just ask for the one you want.
Maureen

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YEP says on Feb 3, 2005, 19:19:

he he .... I was only joking .... just shows how pro such sites
is. Ass if only spanish speaking people would use their site ;-)


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emero says on Feb 4, 2005, 03:33:

me and my novio The difference between us is 12 years he is 25 colombian i'm 38 scottish

We have been dating for nearly a year, his parents know i exist they have seen pictures of me. though i haven't spoken (they don't speak english and my spanish is only beginners) or met them yet we are based in the UK.

I don't really think about the age difference, i enjoy our companionship and we are also good friends. i'm not making any long term plans we are just bumbling along , enjoying life and having fun.

we are both really happy have a nice home together and enjoy each other's company







hugs Diane x

hugs Diane x

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N2Aquatix says on Feb 4, 2005, 04:36:

Hi Jeff One thing I forgot to mention in that lengthy note that I sent you is that my novia is 15 years younger than me and she prefers it that way. In her opinion, younger men are not serious and experienced enough to make suitable husbands. I hope this doesn't offend anybody, and remember it's just her opinion, not an established fact. I know several young guys that are quite serious, but they are highly educated and career oriented which is not necessarily the status quo.

Jay

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Iain says on Feb 4, 2005, 07:48:

Personal Experience Well I'm 37 and my wife is 25 so I am 12 years older than her, it is not a huge age gap but it is as large as I would personally want it to be, its just me and how “I” feel about it. We get on great and I am a young 37 year old. I personally think an age difference of 5 to 10 years is just about right and in my case 12 being an absolute max. This is just for me though and others are different. I could never be say 40 and chasing 20 year olds for a serious relationship as I just think a 20 year gap is way too big. As for 50 year old gringos going after girls in their 20’s is just nonsense. I just wouldn’t feel right walking down the street with a wife 20+ years younger than me. So basically if you are 50 then you should be going for a woman in her late 30s.

Just my $.02 !

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Feb 4, 2005, 08:31:

I know I promised Jeff I'd post my opinion about the age gap, but I think I'll pass this time. I've expressed my views about the age difference before and they are well discussed already. Also, I don't like to be baited or manipulated into a debate just to become a target for wild accusations about my disposition, character or even my political leaning.
For all it's worth, I pretty much agree with Iain.

Cheers,
Desi

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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WidowerfromCanada says on Feb 4, 2005, 08:40:

I respect that Desi Desi,

I respect anybody opinion and I don't want you to feel uncomfortable.

I understand now and don't worry about posting on this subject.

Jeff

Love is like a butterfly , if you chase it you will not catch it but you can hope the butterfly of love lands on your shoulder.

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oldbongo says on Feb 4, 2005, 08:59:

desi and iain... two birds... one stone...

the oldgringo and la commandante enjoy
every bad vibe that you two send our way,
(figuratively), with your declaration that a
relationship like ours is "nonsense"...
we love to see others jealous. it forms a part
of our strength-building awareness.
talk to me in twenty years.....

and the french have a formula...
mans' age divided by two, plus seven years, equals
the optimum age for the lady.the oldgringo tried that
and wasn't french enough. he relates better to garcia marquez.

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utopiacowboy says on Feb 4, 2005, 09:17:

Remember OG, your odometer rolled over. You're just a kid now.

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oldbongo says on Feb 4, 2005, 09:45:

eso...!!.. and my 1964 pontiac has 103,500 miles on it too.

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lpdiver says on Feb 4, 2005, 09:46:

I like the old VW's They rolled over every 10,000 miles.

Tony

"cook some rice!"

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Iain says on Feb 4, 2005, 12:43:

oldgringo I'm glad that your relationship is strong but I still stand by my opinion that a 20+ year age gap is for the most part (99% of the time) is just too big.

Also you say that you have a 31 year age difference, with all due respect oldgringo you are both hardly going to enjoy your old age together. So if you live to 80 she will be 49, c'mon even you can see that a 49 year old is hardly going to want to hang around emptying your colostomy bag! Not to mention the fact that you will die 40 odd years before her !

The widower from Canada asked the BB for opinons and he got them as it sounds like he is planning a trip down to Colombia to find a wife. I'm merly saying that if he is say a 50 year old guy then he would be better off finding someone in their late 30s or early 40s. A 20+ year old girl just does not have the life experiences that a 50 year old guy does and there would be very little in common. Lets remeber here a 20+ year age gap is a whole GENERATION. I'm sorry if the fact that I find 50 year gringoes flying down to Colombia to chase up a 20+ year old girl for marriage pathetic offends you.

I also believe most Colombian girls in Colombia marry guys that are near their age within 5 to 10 years. Although I also understand that many husbands will play the field with younger women but that is a another subject altogether.

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ARMacleod says on Feb 4, 2005, 13:39:

?Age difference? Personally the age difference for me is not a problem., I have to admit though, me 64.5 she 53.5. I would be happier if she were a little older, or conversely, I was a little younger (wouldn't we all?)

On the other hand I am more concerned at the mileage difference, 5450, That is a greater problem.

Being of unsound mind and dubious disposition, I cannot be held legally liable for any indiscretions."¡El diablo me hizo hacerlo!" But don't worry, be happy.

The brain is like a parachute, it only functions correctly when it is open. Pax vobiscum.

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calipro says on Feb 4, 2005, 16:49:

oldgringo Don't listen to Iain's bull.

You may die forty years before your wife but you'll die a happy man.

Anybody that writes stuff like this:

"Also you say that you have a 31 year age difference, with all due respect oldgringo you are both hardly going to enjoy your old age together. So if you live to 80 she will be 49, c'mon even you can see that a 49 year old is hardly going to want to hang around emptying your colostomy bag! Not to mention the fact that you will die 40 odd years before her !"

Is still rationalizing why they ended up with what they got and not what they really, really wanted. Can you imagine calculating how long your wife might live after you die so you can feel good about who you married. hehehe!!

Oldgringo you are miles ahead of this guy;-)

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Gary Hall says on Feb 4, 2005, 17:25:

mathematical fact involved here This is only for humor and not an insult but reading all the above I have come up with a mathematical fact that it is proven that 25 goes into 38 an lot more then 82 goes into 19. Your happyness will last a lot longer I think. :)
Enjoy your life and be happy. Age is of no concern but to those involved. Love has no limits.

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lpdiver says on Feb 4, 2005, 18:15:

ok Old woman to old man: how often do you enjoy sex

Old man to old woman: Infrequently

Old woman to old man: Pardon but is that one word or two?


JEJEJE

"cook some rice!"

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oldbongo says on Feb 4, 2005, 19:09:

as he said before... when the oldgringo was young..

he did it thrice daily..

in middle age, he did it tri-weekly..

now, in old age, he just tries,..weakly.

thanks calipro..and gary..

how many times does 57 go into 26??......enough!

and for iains' information,
this oldgringo was not "flying down to colombia to chase up" anybody,
in fact, he was with his adult daughter, when la commandante set
her trap....i was the one seduced.
and as to the colostomy, ...may you reap what you sow.

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mzzmerized says on Feb 4, 2005, 20:04:

old gringo and "where's the beef?" was that your young wife that typed that in? (hehehe...sorry...couldn't resist!)

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Iain says on Feb 5, 2005, 01:13:

Oldgringo you are miles ahead of this guy Yep 20 "year" miles ahead of me !

"Is still rationalizing why they ended up with what they got and not what they really"

Eeeerrr No, not quite, I'm very happy with what "I've got"

"Can you imagine calculating how long your wife might live after you die so you can feel good about who you married. hehehe!!"

Life is full of calculations like:

Shall I talke this job or that one etc
Is this new girl I met my type, does she share the same outlook, do we get on, is our age diffrence going to be a factor.
Is it safe to go to this part of Colombia.

We see it all the time on this BB, people asking is it safe for a blond blue eyed gringo to go to Colombia.

This current thread is being used by widower from Canada's own calculations on girls from Colombia.
And there's probably a 100's of others you could list.

If you can't afford to make a few rough calculations on important choices in life (and none more so than your future partner) then well what I can I say!

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calipro says on Feb 5, 2005, 05:44:

Iain, I mean Spock... After this statement:

"Life is full of calculations like:

Shall I talke this job or that one etc
Is this new girl I met my type, does she share the same outlook, do we get on, is our age diffrence going to be a factor.
Is it safe to go to this part of Colombia."

I have to say I think you missed the boat. There are only two questions. Do you want to be with the woman more than any other and does she want to be with you more than any other. The rest are moot points.

Widower from Canada,

If it is true that you are going to use our unscientific poll to help you decide who you should spend quality time with. STOP !!
And follow your heart because if you don't you will be left defending your calculations to the bitter end. (like someone we know)hehehe !!

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utopiacowboy says on Feb 5, 2005, 08:00:

"Follow your heart" is pretty much the best advice you could get, Widower.

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WidowerfromCanada says on Feb 5, 2005, 10:14:

Forget science & calculations, I am going to follow my heart.

Iain,

I am a 43 year old Man and I am not running down to Colombia to find a 20 year old Wife. Never , I am going for a 21 year old wife, lol .

Seriously Iain , this thread is about Men and women experience with a younger woman or man. We are not hear to judge or tell a guy that his wife is going to be 49 when he has colostomy bag.

"Is still rationalizing why they ended up with what they got and not what they really, really wanted. Can you imagine calculating how long your wife might live after you die so you can feel good about whom you married. hehehe!!"

Like calipro says is anybody supposed to settle for someone in there age range because we might die before our wife, that is crazy !!

Calipro and Greenday hit it off with 19-25 year olds , I say good for them if it makes them happy. Why not !!

I don't know if I will end up marrying an 23 year old or a 43 year old women , I will let my heart guide me. For some reason I hit it off with the 26-31 year old women. We shall see.

Iain ,

Why are you judging others peoples decision like old gringo. If he and his novia are happy then hooray for them. It is hard enough in this world to find happiness and love. Who cares about age !!!

On the other side of the coin there are men that are married to women within a couple of years of them or going out with one. If they are happy and in love that is all that matters.

Utopiacowboy ,

I agree totally with you !!

Thanks for the feedback folks lets keep in coming !!!!

Jeff

Love is like a butterfly , if you chase it you will not catch it but you can hope the butterfly of love lands on your shoulder.

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tbone says on Feb 5, 2005, 19:40:

Age depends on the people involved i am 51 my colombian fiancee is 21...

i also had many problems with this relationship, but she just wouldn't let it go, we talked on the messenger for 4 months until she convinced me to take a chance. i traveled to colombia and had the time of my life, me all of her family and she treated me like a king.

and yes, here in california i got alot of attention from 20 years old girls, so to answer the question, do i really think a 20 year old girl in the united states is going to be interested in me...YES

depends on who you are, i don't feel 50 what's 50 suppose to be like, i am in great physical shape and i don't look my age, and i like everything modern...say mmmm bad religion, AFI, Guttermouth, Death by Stereo, but i also like juanes, jorge celedon, vicente fernandez, cool and the gang and on and on...

depends on who you are...what you are inside of you...on what comes out of your mouth...of what is in your heart...what makes a person is many things...

i feel good about my relationship...we have the same likes in everything...

besides, 50% of marriages end in divorce in the U.S. so what's the risk in marrying someone younger than me...when i'm with her she makes me feel great...and i'll take that for what it's worth...i've never had a problem with having girls in my life, and my experience in Colombia has been just fantastic, an experience of a lifetime and i thank my flaquita a million for the experience...

age doesn't matter, it's who you are...

i'm not a face in the crowd...and that makes all the difference

therealtommyboy

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Iain says on Feb 6, 2005, 00:32:

From another thread Here is a post from miamimike:

http://www.poorbuthappy.com/colombia/node/4988

"My Buddy is Divorcing after 16 months of marriage to an attorney from Barrinquilla. Things did not go well. His age and hers is a big gap--he is around 70, she is 42."

and a another one of his replies:

"Ha! Ha! Who knows what happened?? No she did not get the green card, money, who knows?? I think the age was too great of a difference. Sure there were other issues I have been told about."

And she dumped him without even getting her greencard!

And he states another fact:

"have been under the cultural mores of the land but once the colombian ladies fly here-MAN do they change. And they do !! Personally--I am 58 and my ladyfriend is 51 and I would not be interested in anyone 45 or less. I beleive once they hit that 45 yr. mark they tend to stabalize and they are less likely to "Fly the Coop" as we say. They will think twice before leaving whereas a pretty young colombian woman simply will b not stick around with their much older husband once she gets acclimated here in the US. It may work in colombia but for sure-it will NEVER work here-not in the long haul anyhow."

Sorry but I like miamimike just don't believe that this type of age difference is ever going to work. Sorry tbone but you are chasing an illusion and if you can't see a 51 year old guy to 21 year old girl is simply not going to work then its time NOT to follow your heart and to use your mind. I can imagine that great levels of conversation a 51 year old guy and a 21 year old girl would have! Not forgetting to mention that you are pretty much stealing her youth.

I really can't believe that there are you type of guys that actually believe that this is doable and that they are actually with you because they love you. Time for a reality check here. Call me judgmental if you wish but I believe that all marriages with these types of age differences are doomed to failure. Certainly if you take them back to the US anyway.

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calipro says on Feb 6, 2005, 07:35:

Are you a man? Does your physical presence command any kind of respect from others?

Are you confident in your ablity to take care of and statisfy a woman?

Do you expect women in general to be attracted to you?

Do you fear that your woman will "run off" or change?

Does going for an older less attractive woman that may not leave you (instead of the most desirable woman you can get) sound like a good plan?

Does the longevity of a relationship determine the success of the relationship or how many times a week you have sex and in general how enjoyable the relationship is?

ARE YOU A MAN? or are you Iain? hehehe!!

No matter were you go people are going to change. I change. I'm 42 and I have certainly dumped more 20 something year old women than have ever dumped me.

This reminds me of a joke.

There was an old, old guy that talked a hot little 20 year old into going to bed with him.

Well they get in the bed room and he slaps on a condon and she stares in amazemnet as he stuffs cotton in his nose and ears.

She says I understand the condom but why the cotton in your nose and ears.

The old guy answers: If it's one thing I can't stand, it's the smell of burnin rubber and the sound of screaming women.

There probably are some twenty something year old guys out there that can best me at something. But, I haven't met any of them. Maybe I'm dilusional or maybe, just maybe, I'm a man.

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tbone says on Feb 6, 2005, 07:55:

one life... first of all, i'm stealin' anything, this was her idea...

am i afraid she'll leave me? i've never been dumped before but there's always a first time...

i'm just enjoying life as it comes, right now this has been a great and special experience traveling to colombia, something i wouldn't have done if it she hadn't been so insistent, and i thank her for the experience, i real like colombia alot...great experience...just that alone has made it worth the effort.

let me put it to you this way...i rather have 5 years with a gorgeous 21 year old woman than not at all...women will come and go...but this one has brought into my life some really beautiful experiences...like i said just traveling to colombia has been an experience of a life time...the rest who knows...

there's a big difference between somebody 58 and somebody 51, i like led zepplin and that was before your time, i like "guttermouth" and "less than jake"...what 58 years guys even know what i'm talking about...i was born and raised in california that also makes a big difference...

therealtommyboy

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Iain says on Feb 6, 2005, 10:29:

Dodging the facts with jokes calipro you completely ignore the facts as they are put to you and instead make jokes and question if I am "man" etc. That says a lot about and how much you know about the almost for certain problems that will arise with such huge age difference. I believe (if what you say is true) all you do is go down to Cali to "bang" as many girls as you can which says a lot about you and the respect that you have to offer them. So if I was the Canadian guy asking the question I think you would be the first person whose advise I would ignore.

If the older guys on here think they can go down their and marry a 21 year old when there is a 30 year age gap and think that there won't be any issues then they are living in denial. With that in mind nothing more will change their minds as they will only see what they want to see. As miamimike said it might fly down in Colombia if you stayed there but as soon as they get to the US they will dump your old ass.

tbone you say:

"am i afraid she'll leave me? i've never been dumped before but there's always a first time"

Well you have never married a girl who is 30 years younger than you before either. You trying to tell me that it has never crossed your mind the huge age gap and how long she will stay around? C'mon sure it has.

But if you say that you would have 5 years with a gorgeous girl than none at all then at least you are are being realistic about the possible length such a union would last.

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oldbongo says on Feb 6, 2005, 10:45:

hey tboner... whats the big difference,?
you feel 21,..the oldgringo 26.
and stop making like your old enough for led zep.
ther oldgringo was backstage with them in '69 when
you were just a kid, and even in californicate,
you're still a kid....but a good kid.

IAIN...again.."you can imagine the great conversations"
between the 50+ and the 21 something...

well one our favorites is the conversation we have regarding people, who are opinionated and ignorant,(a great combination,very common), along with people who are tough and stupid, another great combo.

we also share the culture of LIFE!!,.. which is a little larger than
some peoples limited view of the commonality of cultural influences
neccesary for a happy time to be passed in each others company.

and maybe you want to grow old with somebody old, not this cowboy.
neither does she, by the time that rolls around, if it does,....
she knows she's being traded in for for two younger models,
and the oldgringo knows that he's being traded in for two younger models, also.

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tbone says on Feb 6, 2005, 11:57:

i have a choice you see i can be with a 40 year old woman who is flat out gorgeous or i can be with a 21 year old girl that is gorgeous...

some guys can do that...

what i can't deny is that marrying somebody 40 years old is going to equate to a lasting marriage...there are no guarantees...

you bet i've given those things some thought...she and her family have convinced me that they are sincere in their feelings towards me, i have traveled to colombia three times in the past 5 months and i can't say enough about how well i have been treated...

we have everything in common: religion, music, food, personalities and much more...age never seems to be an issue...never gets in the way of communication...

the issue some people bring up is that i will become wheelchair bound with a vivacious young thing on the loose...

you never know who's going to outlive whom...

right now life is good...and that's good enough for me...

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calipro says on Feb 6, 2005, 13:29:

Iain "Well I'm 37 and my wife is 25 so I am 12 years older than her, it is not a huge age gap but it is as large as I would personally want it to be, its just me and how “I” feel about it. We get on great and I am a young 37 year old. I personally think an age difference of 5 to 10 years is just about right and in my case 12 being an absolute max. This is just for me though and others are different."

For what it's worth I agree with you on two points.First, a twelve year age difference is just about all you can handle. If you were any older or she was any younger she would probably ditch you. Christ, you are 37 and you already sound like an old man. Secondly for others it is different, very different. hehehe!!!

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N2Aquatix says on Feb 7, 2005, 09:55:

LOL I agree with Tbone and Calipro. I'd rather have 2 or 3 years with a gorgeous super model than 20 or 30 years with a fat dumpy fluella Snagnasty. LOL!!! ;-)

Jay

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miamimike says on Feb 7, 2005, 10:21:

Lots of changes between 18 and 25 As we all know,a person, male or female undergoes a lot of psychological changes between 18-25. They just completed a study on young drivers here in the US and found out the frontal brain lobe that controls Risk Taking is not even fully developed until 25 and this is world wide, not just the USA(one of the biggest reasons they found why younger drivers incur more fatalities in vehicular fatalities). I would like anyone, 40+ yrs. to tell me they the think the same as did when they were 18 or 25. We change. Our priorities and views of how we observe the world changes. A 25 yr old women's mind is in a sea of change-even in her own country. A 45 yr. old has set views of the world and how he/she perceives it. A few years down the road when the woman is 30 or so-she will not be thinking like she did when she was 20 or 25. meanwhile the husband has advanced in years to 50+ and is more set in his ways. Maybe if the women was 45+ years-then she has stablized in her thinking and the man has stabilzed also. So a 60yr. old marrying a 45 yr. old would not be out of the ball park. And we still are not even talking a drastic culture change nor a langauge barrier. How much will this affect the marrige because it certainly will. We are kidding ourselves,sadly, if we think otherwise and are likely to suffer a lot of heartache when the break-up comes.

On Sept 17, 2008: Senator John McCain said, as he had many times before, that he believed the fundamentals of the economy were "strong."Hours later he backpedaled, explaining that he had meant that American workers were Strong.

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calipro says on Feb 7, 2005, 17:25:

miamimike "We are kidding ourselves,sadly, if we think otherwise and are likely to suffer a lot of heartache when the break-up comes."

Some of us just don't have that big of a fear of rejection. And the rest of us are old and tuff and can take it;-))

However I do think you have point with the risk taking argument. I don't think the guys that go down to Colombia have a fully developed frontal lope that controls risk taking no matter how old they are which might help to explain why they are so compatable with the younger women found there. hehehe!!!

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utopiacowboy says on Feb 7, 2005, 17:43:

Strangely enough, Calipro, you may have a point. There may be a self-selection process that weeds out those who are not likely to be good candidates for a relationship with a young Colombiana. I work with guys 20 years younger than me and none of them can match me for willingness to take risks and a general spirit of adventure. Some of these young guys are so damm "old" - it's depressing.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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N2Aquatix says on Feb 8, 2005, 03:16:

Scald the hog I have to agree with you once again UC. The self-selection process may be why only about 10% or so of the women on the marriage agency sites ever actually meet anyone. And then again you always have those who talk the relationship to death and lose interest before ever meeting the person. Scald the hog while the water is hot!!!

Jay

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utopiacowboy says on Feb 8, 2005, 12:20:

N2Aquatix, you hog-scalder, you! Where are you from, dude?

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N2Aquatix says on Feb 8, 2005, 22:58:

Biloxi, MS Well, I'm actually from Biloxi, MS. I grew up there before they turned it into casino central. I moved to AL when I got my degree because it's much more industrialized and the job market is better for a chemist. Now that I have about 10 years experience, I'm moving back to the coast because I have enough experience to get a good chemical job there now. Funny how that works, isn't it? By the way, I lived in Texas for 2 years when I was in the military. I have to say that it is one of the more enjoyable places that I've lived. 6th street in Austin holds many fond mammaries, oops I mean memories. ;-)

Jay

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HODAD26 says on Feb 8, 2005, 23:17:

age is a number, nerver really matters, especially with latin w Michael Johnson Senor Pescado
i was there with someone 11 years younger than me, first, Colombian and most and i can also say, Asian woem are a lot more mature than 'gringas' and one, i would never even think about being with a gringa, no way!!
i had a grilfriend in el salvador[where i have lived for 8 years] she was 21, i was 45, we were together 2 1/2 years, lost contact after the earthquake in 2000. she was more mature than me, wrote incredible poems and songs and was also the cetral american kick boxing champ
age, all in the mind it is not that a Colombian woman,{ and they are THE BEST, smartest, brightest, et.al. over Mexicans and Central Americanas] are just wanting to be with you because you are gringo, they respect you differently and culturally, they are above most other women in styel and being a homemaker, if that is what youwant.., yes, they are lots better than american women, and especially now
here in Myrtle beach, SC has the highest per capita drug use for females, here they are worthless, i will guarantee, less drug use in Colombia than here
age, no problemo, the problemo is maybe keeping up with their sex drive {but at 51, i still do yoga and still ride 25 ft, waves} all in the mind, and to eat right of course...
but.. i can say, it is in their culture also, to be faithfull with their man, no matter what, unlike here in USA..
enough, back soon, to el sal, and nicaragua, for fish, but my heart is in Colombia, and there also soon, for fish biz and maybe?? a love of my life, the last one just did not work, this one lived in the us, and had problems i did not know about till later, did not need them
Peace

Michael Johnson Senor Pescado

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Lionheart says on Feb 9, 2005, 00:13:

N2A If I had a choice where to live in the States, I would choose Austin over any other place I have been to. 6th Street and SxSW are 2 reasons ... not to mention many others ... I also have 2 years of memories there ...

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utopiacowboy says on Feb 9, 2005, 08:31:

Austin rocks! Everybody in Texas would live there if they could.

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WidowerfromCanada says on Feb 11, 2005, 00:37:

I thank everybody for their interesting responses I thank everybody for their responses this thread has been very thought provoking and very informative.

Jeff

Love is like a butterfly , if you chase it you will not catch it but you can hope the butterfly of love lands on your shoulder.

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bondjames says on Feb 15, 2005, 09:40:

Calipro, I still have no Calipro,

I still have not figured out why you think the girls you date are so hot! Because they are young???? I have seen a few pics of the girls you call 10's. I guess to each his own. Some of the girls are alright. But most are pretty plain by Colombian standards. They are just flashy.
I know pretty women as I travel a lot and also live in NYC where there are tons of hot Colombianas.Your girls ain't hot!!!They are just a little above average in Colombia.

It just cracks me up that you cannot figure out the reason you are popular in Colombia is simply because you are a gringo.Your line about winning out when competing against local Colombian men is funny.Sure you will win out. Once you bring the girls to the U.S. Calipro you cannot keep them because they realize then you are just "average older guy".just like their own local choices back in Colombia.

You can catch them,but unfortunately cannot keep them for too long. You have already married 2 Calenas,both gone! Your ex-Lucianna I also cannot figure out what is so hot about her. She has a bad nose job,boobs that look like 2 hard rocks,collegen lips and a flat butt. Yet,she is only about 25. But she does have great hair and coloring, I give her that.But just a plastic shell of a woman.
Before you get down on me for being insecure cause it's your only retarded defense when you hear something you do not agree with, let me tell you I like hot chicks.I KNOW WHAT A HOT CHICK LOOKS LIKE! So get off your high horse and stop telling guys they cannot get hot girls like the ones you have. Again,laughable since some of the chicks you like have a serious case of "dude" face with no make up on.You are in serious denial dude.

The funny thing is if you really had game like you think you would be able to pick up hot high class rich Colombian girls. Not just the poor ones with mafioso type boyfriends. But girls from educated,high class families. Oh, I forgot, you cannot compete with the locals from rich areas.can't compete with doctors,lawyers,business men.Just the poor or mafioso "locals" from areas where there are women in distress. Wow! You aim high don't you! Keep your chicks in Colombia. Once they get to the U.S. and have a green card you will be history. At least in Colombia, you will be the gringo with money. Better choice than the locals it's obvious.But in the U.S. she will realize you are nothing but a pathetic mailman with a HUGE ego and a gut who cannot get any attention from decent women in the U.S. women unless she is fat or ugly. Yeah,all women want a guy who no other woman wants. What a catch!!!!. I guess to avoid that scenario,best to move to Colombia so at least your women will still "believe" you are hot commodity!
You are a sad case of a man who is truly dellusional!
Oh, before you start bragging about the "wet spot" you give these girls again take a simple look at a biology book. It is natural during sex for both male and female to omit body secretions. The younger the girl, the more likely. It does not mean she is that hot for you.MOST young girls will be "wet".
But I am sure the women you date fake it cause they know they need to satisfy your huge ego in order to get their rewards.Wowe! What a revelation!!

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YEP says on Feb 15, 2005, 10:46:

Looking forward to see how the POLICE in here will deal with
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greenday says on Feb 15, 2005, 10:53:

YEP, I was thinking the same looks like we're in for another "thread lockdown"...

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Lionheart says on Feb 15, 2005, 11:07:

no police here just a very bored and annoyed moderator.

I think this is thread #12 since I joined PBH where the topic is about the age difference. Nothing new, and it has moved from the original topic yet again with no real answers.

"Peter: Thank you for your further consideration and approval of this thread. I hope this gives all of us a greater understanding of Colombian culture and what is accepted in Colombia."

The only culture discussed now is between yeah and nay sayers of age differences with Colombianas. I have yet to read posts (at least 3) from Colombianas under 25 to hear their opinion.

If the usual bantering starts now between the known members this thread will be locked, not deleted. No need to repeat what has already been beaten to death.

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greenday says on Feb 15, 2005, 11:23:

Lionheart Does that mean if YOU get bored with threads YOU have the right to lock them down, just because YOU don't like them or their participants??
Bantering and bickering aside, I think the sign of an interesting thread (at least to it's members), is the amount of participation in that thread. With the exception of the arrival of "007", there really has been no great negativity in this thread, but because YOU are bored with the topic, or YOU feel like there isn't enough participation from young girls, you might lock it down.
Well listen Lionheart, you really don't have to click on every thread and read them (even if you are a moderator). If anyone has a huge problem with any thread or post, they can send in a complaint. I think you are taking your job as moderator a little too seriously.
Hell, just scroll down some of the threads on the first page, talk about some boring shit, but then again the threads that seem boring to me I just don't open and read them. That's the great thing about how this board is set up.
Relax a little Lionheart, this board will operate just fine without your iron fist. I can remember a post of yours not too long ago where you busted my balls pretty good, and provoked me, so please you haven't been an angel on this forum either. BTW, probably the most boring and irrevelant post in this thread was one of yours pertaining to the fact that you liked Austin, Texas...WTF???
Just some constructive criticism...

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Lionheart says on Feb 15, 2005, 13:21:

People are sending in complaints And some complaints are about you greenday. Today you are complaining in several threads about PBH. You are free not to post as well. As I said, so far this thread is fine. If you continue to rant it will be your cause it gets locked, like in other threads, where you rant with a few others ad infinitum. You are not being creative for PBH.

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YEP says on Feb 15, 2005, 14:15:

Please setup a sticky where people can rant on other threads

then and problem is enclosed in one spot. If people don't obey ..... Well then OP's will have an easy job choosing what to do ;-)

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Iain says on Feb 15, 2005, 15:06:

Married twice ? From bondjames:

"You can catch them,but unfortunately cannot keep them for too long. You have already married 2 Calenas,both gone!"

calipro, I thought I read it from you somewhere that you were previously married to a Calena but I didn't know you have been twice, unless bondjames is wrong. Well if the above statement is true then it really does go towards proving my point about the almost non existent probability of marriages where large age differences are present lasting. I would imagine that your marriage(s) were not even of the large age difference that I was refering to either.

Also the picture that bondjames paints of you is oddly also same as I had of you. I just hope that the original poster widowerfromcanada is sensible enough to ignore your comments to his original question.

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bondjames says on Feb 15, 2005, 15:22:

calipro,

Word of advice from a guy who is really a pro with women. The best way to tell if a woman had an orgasm is not how wet she is,but contractions pulsating in the vagina after she is done. You will know what I mean if you have ever felt it.can't fake that!!!!!!!!

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greenday says on Feb 15, 2005, 16:56:

lionheart If there are complaints about me, I'd sure like to see them. If you are talking about my exchange with go2pr this weekend, hey he insulted kat1 who is a very sweet young lady. I didn't see you jumping to her defense, I was the only one. Also the guy comes here and puts down Colombia, while bragging how great Brazil is. Where were you on this one??? Plus, the troll hasn't shown up since, you owe me a debt of gratitude in getting rid of him. I have more friends on this board than you think Lionheart...if you don't like me, ban me. Seems this power trip is going to your head...I just tell it like it is Lionheart...I've been a member of this board a hell of alot longer than you. Plus I think as a member I can dish out some constructive criticism, or are you going to sensor that also?? I think it is fair criticism to bring up the fact that marriage agencies and dating sites are advertised here, but it is taboo to talk about them in threads...according to you it's taboo to even talk about relationships with Colombianas. No, Lionheart, I will continue to post here...if no one likes my posts, just skip over them, it's very simple. And it will be MY FAULT that this thread is locked??? Based on what??? my 2 posts here??

BTW, I've had some members PM me complaining about YOU, so I guess we are even...

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calipro says on Feb 15, 2005, 17:26:

Back by popular demand.... "Oh, before you start bragging about the "wet spot" you give these girls again take a simple look at a biology book. It is natural during sex for both male and female to omit body secretions. The younger the girl, the more likely."

Well James Bond, I mean BondJames

I'm not sure that I ever admitted to having a woman leave a wet spot in my bed. But, thanks for the biology lesson. Now I won't have to feel bad if I have to lube it up from time to time. hehehe!!

Sorry about the pithy response but you seem quite angry and I'm not sure there is anything I can say that will make you feel any better.

Iain are you still cryin !!

I have actually been married three times. My first wife was a hot little americana not much younger than myself. I met her in a topless bar in Phoenix. I liked her alot but unfortunately I liked her friends alot too.

My last two wives were caleñas. One never made it here. And my first one is well my creation. I call her my little monster. I turned a sweet humble little caleña into an educated self centered monster not much unlike myself.

If you want you can check out my first wifes resume at:

http://www.onemodelplace.com/member.cfm?ID=18022

Just make sure the wife isn't around when you check it out.

My mother and father were both married 5 times. I think I will probably beat that. It's actually pretty common here in the states. They even have a term for it (serial monogamy).

I certainly hope that my behavior does not reflect poorly on the women I date or marry.

I think I have mentioned it before but just so we are on the same page, longevity in a relationship does not equal success in my book. I see a lot of married people that would be happier if they split. I'm not glutton for punishment. Once it starts to go, I'm gone.

I personally know guys that actually waited until they were married to have sex. They really believe that there is only one person in the world that they can love and they work unbelievable hard at making their relatively unhappy relationships work. IMHO if their wife ever leaves them they are the ones most likely to hit her in the head with an axe.

You can love and be loved by many, many people in a life time.

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YEP says on Feb 15, 2005, 17:34:

HE HE CP .... the last statement you kind of answered yourself
but it's always enlightening to have a conversation with an intelligent person (one self) ;-)



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greenday says on Feb 15, 2005, 18:23:

hey calipro I get the feeling that 007 doesn't like you...

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greenday says on Feb 15, 2005, 18:28:

also I think this thread is for sure to be in "lockdown" after Lionheart sees this...more than likely deleted. Damn, why do I feel like I'm in grade school again???...

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calipro says on Feb 15, 2005, 18:39:

greenday I think 007 is the same troll that has been dogging my ass since Caligingo. He actually had me going a little when he was pretending to be Traveller and threatening to "get his hands on me".

Then he went over to worldlovecollege. Man I have to admitt the guy started to grow on me. He really had me ROTFLMAO with some of the stuff he posted on that site. Steve thought it was pretty funny when he was hounding me but when he turned on Steve and Burbuja it was a whole different story.

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greenday says on Feb 15, 2005, 18:46:

well I know you're not always the most popular guy in town, but I thought it was odd that he came on so strong out of the blue. So there must be some past history involved. Maybe Lionheart can send him one of his "stern warning PM's" and nip-it-in-the-bud.

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N2Aquatix says on Feb 15, 2005, 23:02:

Super models I still say I'd rather have two years with a scorching hot super model than twenty years with a worn out old maid! LOL!!! And yes, I date exclusively younger women and would have it no other way. Why would I want to waste my time with a woman who is too old to tango and gets tired before I even get started good? Duhhhhh....... ;-)

Jay

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bondjames says on Feb 16, 2005, 00:11:

Calipro, Your ex looks alri Calipro,
Your ex looks alright in those pics.Playboy does some great airbrushing. She knows her angles. Can't really see the bad nose job or the collegan enhanced lips she has. Also breast look a little less like the hard balls she used to have. had them done over I imagine. She will look real hard in a few years. You are lucky she left your ass for that plastic surgeon. Otherwise you would have been stuck with a woman who looks like the poster girl for "bad plastic surgery " in a few years.

Myself, I look a woman with natural beauty. One who looks like an innocent girl.
By the way, I find you quite comical and entertaining. In the same way I find the fat Chinese guy who brags on the internet about bagging all of these gorgeous girls in Russia. He too believes they really like him for himself and not money or the green card. He loves teens like you,likes to post pics of hot girls he slept with ,some in quite compromising positions(cause he needs to have proof that he actually can get poor hot women since no hot girls in the U.S. will go near him). Hey, you guys have quite a lot in common.I make fun of him too. It's just tooooooo easy.

One question I gotta ask. Why do you travel to Colombia just to get "average" girls. Or girls you need to get a lot of surgery . Just come over to New York and I can introduce you to hot latinas. Oops sorry, I forgot. You are only a pro in Cali. Can't get a woman who already has a greencard.......hehehe

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calipro says on Feb 16, 2005, 02:32:

Damn Bond you usually don't talk about my ex this much and I thought it was me you had the hard on for. hehehe !!

Girls with green cards, been there done that. You know it isn't like a wish I had a gringa wife but couldn't get one. I really do prefer caleñas;-)

For what it's worth I find you quite entertaining also. I sometimes think about you at night and chuckle thinking about just how envious you must really be, to spend your hours documenting my life and making long posts with me as the sol topic. hehehe !!! I mean after all 007 it isn't like you could really hate me. You don't even know me.

Anyway try and not get canned so fast this time. If you are the same troll from the worldlovecollege forum, that was some damn funny shit you wrote. You definately had me LMFAO.

Hey you forgot to tell everybody that I'm hung like a five year old that jumped in a cold pool. That's always good for a giggle or two, thinking about how under developed you must be.

Who knows for sure; it's just the way my mind works.

I got an idea. Why don't you post some pictures so we can all wish we were you for a change. hehehe !!!

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calipro says on Feb 16, 2005, 13:53:

Hey !!! What happened to my one man fan club?

Well.....if you bounced him out of here, it looks like the only friend I will have left is little Iain; who by the way is threatening to make decisions on whether or not May-December relationships are viable based on what happened in my personal life.

Well if nobody else is willing to help Iain out I guess I will have to.

Iain,

There are sooooo many more important things that determine the success of a relationship than the age of the people involved. Geez, Did I really have to say that?

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vladimiro says on Feb 16, 2005, 14:11:

pobrecitas...have to sleep with old men

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utopiacowboy says on Feb 16, 2005, 15:21:

Well, Vladimiro, it's a dirty job but somebody's gotta do it.

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Iain says on Feb 17, 2005, 00:01:

"There are sooooo many more important things that determine the success of a relationship than the age of the people involved. Geez, Did I really have to say that?"

I guess you need to keep on saying it to convince yourself of it?

Of I keep forgetting that you are talking about *your* experience of long term marriage with large age difference jaja.

It easy for the people who are 50 odd and are living with their early 20's chica in the US to spout out how great it is *so far* but in the long term she's gonna dump your old ass!

Now as a couple of other bods have pointed out, they would rather have a few years with some hot chic than none then that's another matter. At least they do acknowledge that it probably won't last more than that and are honest about it.

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calipro says on Feb 17, 2005, 01:19:

You really have to want it or what's the point really.

Maybe your idea of success is burying your bone in the same hole every night for the rest of your life (god bless you) but it certainly isn't mine, at least not now.

What's the difference if they leave you or you leave them? In the end it's all the same. I know I have dumped many a twenty year old women; it's all I have ever dated here in the states or Colombia. The longest relationship I have ever had in my life was the 3 and a half years that I spent with my first caleña wife and if it wasn't the most enjoyable relationship I ever had I wouldn't have lasted that long.

To tell you the truth I don't know how some of you guys can hang with the same woman your whole life. Hell if my ex would have hung around another year I might have gotten tired of her to.

When I talk about experiance I'm talking about having lived with at least a dozen women in their early twenties. That is what I've been doing for the last 22 years; well since I was 20. I'm 42 now.

Why would I consider my relationship with my ex-caleña wife any better than any of the other 20 something year old women that I have lived with over the last 22 years. That is easy. She is the only one that I ever cried over when she left. She must have been the only woman I ever truely loved because every other 20 something year old woman I ever lived with or dated I eventually dumped or when they finally did get a clue and just left; I never gave a damn.

So what have I been doing the four years since my ex and I split? The same thing I was doing before I met her. Loving them and leaving them.

But I can tell you one thing. If I ever get married again. It's going to be with a twenty something year old chick from Cali.
It don't get any better than that;-)

Just a question, Does marrying a women that you don't find appealing in every way on the outside chance that she'll hang around forever really sound like a good idea to most of you guys out there?

Do you really go into relationships thinking that they'll last a lifetime? When I was 20 years old I dated and eventually marry a 20 something year old woman. It didn't last a life time (and I'm not sure I ever wanted it to) so why would now be any different. Why would I ever make the connection between how old a woman is and how long the relationship will last?

With one exception, relationships last just about as long as I want them to.

Iain,

"Now as a couple of other bods have pointed out, they would rather have a few years with some hot chic than none then that's another matter."

I believe I was the first one that stated longevity does NOT equall success.

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calipro says on Feb 17, 2005, 01:20:

Ooops!

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utopiacowboy says on Feb 17, 2005, 09:07:

Normally I enjoy your posts, Calipro, but I found the last one a little sad. I hope you find someone that you want to be with your whole life.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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michaelz says on Feb 17, 2005, 10:09:

calipro Calipro makes some good points. When some of my (grigno) female friends see pictures of my girlfriend, they say "you should have picked someone more normal - this will never last".

Maybe, maybe not. So what? If you have a chance to date a Tyra Banks, you go for it. You don't give her up and chase after Rosanne Barr because you think it will last longer.

Go for the gusto. If it lasts it lasts, if it doesn't it doesn't. In the end, we're all dead anyway.

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bondjames says on Feb 17, 2005, 10:11:

Utopia, Are you justr calipro,
I do not think anyone is jealous of you unless he is really pathetic. The only person I would love to trade lives with is a 40 something friend who is worth close to $100 Million and has the lifestyle I want. He is free from any financial pressures because of his brilliant business plans. I envy his lifestyle, not him. I am happy with who I am. You are a joke. To envy you, I would have to envy any guy holding